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9.6.2025 (Monday) 15:58 - All running AOK
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Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362086/30333/47]
Posted by grahame at 14:14, 9th June 2025
 
?  - I thought that Stepney was another Bluebell engine right from the start, and Wikipedia seems to confirm that.


Research suggests that the Minehead engine was No. 78 (Knowle) rather than No. 55 (Stepney)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LB%26SCR_A1_class_locomotives

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [362084/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:16, 9th June 2025
 
Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident between London Paddington and Reading some lines are closed.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:45 09/06

Rapidly pushed out to 1400 & now 1500
 
National Rail reporting no Elizabeth Line services between Paddington-Heathrow/Reading......Advice seems to be to go via Waterloo.

Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362083/30333/47]
Posted by grahame at 12:49, 9th June 2025
 
Back in the early 1970s, Butlins at Minehead were having a clear out, and "Duchess of Hamilton" was donated to the NRM (and, in November 1975, became the final BR train movement on the branch, as she was towed away to Swindon by a Class 25) and the diminutive Stroudley "Terrier" "Stepney" was donated to the WSR.  There was a fanciful idea to return the loco to service, but that didn't happen.  She was used, in 1979, as a smoking prop for a BBC2 telly drama though, thanks to a smoke bomb from BBC special effects department, and a shove from another loco

So there is a precedent for a Terrier on the Minehead Branch

?  - I thought that Stepney was another Bluebell engine right from the start, and Wikipedia seems to confirm that.

But ... I might see the earlier trip as another guest engine appearance and not anything like an "in regular traffic" type use.  It leads towards the question "at what point does a guest cease to be a guest and become a regular part of he family" ... which we could also ask about the S&D 2-8-0s to Minehead.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [362082/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:33, 9th June 2025
 
Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident between London Paddington and Reading some lines are closed.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:45 09/06

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362081/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 12:12, 9th June 2025
 
Monday June 9

And after a few good days:

09:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:22 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident.
Last Updated:09/06/2025 11:24

10:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 13:01 is being delayed at Southall.
This is due to trespassers on the railway.
Last Updated:09/06/2025 11:07

11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:44 will be started from Reading.
This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident.
Last Updated:09/06/2025 11:39

RTT has the 11:52 as starting from Shrub Hill.

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362080/30307/55]
Posted by Electric train at 11:51, 9th June 2025
 
We may not have any wires but, just next to Wokingham station, we do still have a few poles. They had been hiding in the dense woodland that had been allowed to invade the slopes by the railway. As you can see, a lot of trees of similar girth were cut down and I was impressed that the chainsaw brigade could spot which ones were poles and leave them - even when camouflaged by ivy leaves.

Was there ever a siding or head shit there, these types of poles on the SR with only 2 insulators often had lighting on them, or it could have been an electricity supply for the local electricity company / board 

Exploiting the zoom effect in that photo, I can see more than by eye. For a start, the nearer pole is actually reinforced concrete, so might have won a game of scissors-paper-stone with a chainsaw. The two behind it do look round and wooden, though hard to see in detail. And why one has a ladder fixed to it, apparently wrapped in vegetation, who knows?

And while there's only the two running lines here (between the skew bridge in the picture and the footbridge the picture was taken from) in any of the old maps I've looked at, some time between the 1930s and 1960s the entry line for the goods yard at the station was extended into this section. There had always been an unused space for it under the footbridge, oddly.

The ladder would indicate lighting use

Poles for floodlighting usually had only two wires, possibly more in very extensive installations. If arc lamps were used there was usually a winch to lower the whole lighting unit to near ground level for attention, as this was needed frequently. For filament lamps, or later mercury lamps, a ladder was often provided for lamp replacement.

A few installations used series lighting, whereby special lamps of low voltage were used in series on a high voltage supply. Never popular in the UK, more of a USA thing.

Typical UK railway siding / walkway light would have been enamelled metal lampshade.

I am so happy I no longer have to repair / maintain such lighting any longer 

Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362079/30333/47]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 11:51, 9th June 2025
 
I see pictures of "Fenchurch" - a locomotive I associate with the Bluebell - hauling trains on the West Somerset Railway at present and she looks so out of place (and small). 

Back in the early 1970s, Butlins at Minehead were having a clear out, and "Duchess of Hamilton" was donated to the NRM (and, in November 1975, became the final BR train movement on the branch, as she was towed away to Swindon by a Class 25) and the diminutive Stroudley "Terrier" "Stepney" was donated to the WSR.  There was a fanciful idea to return the loco to service, but that didn't happen.  She was used, in 1979, as a smoking prop for a BBC2 telly drama though, thanks to a smoke bomb from BBC special effects department, and a shove from another loco

So there is a precedent for a Terrier on the Minehead Branch

Paddington to Reading line shut, 9 June 2025
In "London to Reading" [362078/30334/7]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 11:45, 9th June 2025
 
Not good

Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading
Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident between London Paddington and Reading all lines are closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:45 09/06.
Customer Advice
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An incident requiring the attention of the emergency services has occurred which will prevent train movements occurring between London Paddington and Reading.

As an alternative GWR ticket holders may use South Western Railway train services between London Waterloo and Reading in either direction. In addition, GWR ticket holders may also use South Western Railway services between London Waterloo and Windosr & Eton Riverside which will assist customers travelling to / from the Slough area who will need to use GWR sevices Slough to Windsor & Eton Central to assist those travelling to / from the Slough area.

GWR ticket holders may also use London Underground services across London between Waterloo and Paddington.
Last Updated:09/06/2025 11:38

Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362077/30333/47]
Posted by Phantom at 11:23, 9th June 2025
 
A plus point has to be that people get to see an engine that they wouldn't normally see

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362075/30307/55]
Posted by broadgage at 11:06, 9th June 2025
 
Poles for floodlighting usually had only two wires, possibly more in very extensive installations. If arc lamps were used there was usually a winch to lower the whole lighting unit to near ground level for attention, as this was needed frequently. For filament lamps, or later mercury lamps, a ladder was often provided for lamp replacement.

A few installations used series lighting, whereby special lamps of low voltage were used in series on a high voltage supply. Never popular in the UK, more of a USA thing.

Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362074/30333/47]
Posted by grahame at 11:05, 9th June 2025
 
I see pictures of "Fenchurch" - a locomotive I associate with the Bluebell - hauling trains on the West Somerset Railway at present and she looks so out of place (and small).  And I see Romney Hythe and Dymchurch locos on the Bure Valley and on the Ravenglass and Eskdale.

Guest locomotives help, I suppose, bring back for another ride (and another wallet extraction) people who have become too familiar with the day to day options but ... are they right?   Am I too much of a purist to be put off by Fenchurch's escapades (to me, would be OK on Isle of Wight ) or is in fine and dandy?

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362073/30307/55]
Posted by stuving at 11:01, 9th June 2025
 
We may not have any wires but, just next to Wokingham station, we do still have a few poles. They had been hiding in the dense woodland that had been allowed to invade the slopes by the railway. As you can see, a lot of trees of similar girth were cut down and I was impressed that the chainsaw brigade could spot which ones were poles and leave them - even when camouflaged by ivy leaves.

Was there ever a siding or head shit there, these types of poles on the SR with only 2 insulators often had lighting on them, or it could have been an electricity supply for the local electricity company / board 

Exploiting the zoom effect in that photo, I can see more than by eye. For a start, the nearer pole is actually reinforced concrete, so might have won a game of scissors-paper-stone with a chainsaw. The two behind it do look round and wooden, though hard to see in detail. And why one has a ladder fixed to it, apparently wrapped in vegetation, who knows?

And while there's only the two running lines here (between the skew bridge in the picture and the footbridge the picture was taken from) in any of the old maps I've looked at, some time between the 1930s and 1960s the entry line for the goods yard at the station was extended into this section. There had always been an unused space for it under the footbridge, oddly.

Re: Announcement - Billions of investment on tram, train and bus projects.
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [362072/30318/40]
Posted by anthony215 at 11:00, 9th June 2025
 
I do think we will see filton bank being wired at least as far as. Temple meads and parson street.

siemens are pushing their battery trains and offering good financedeals.to pay for infrastructure investment for them so I'd say watch this space although TFW are starting a procurement process now.for new rolling stock jn addition to what they have now and they want to run to Bristol TM

Re: Paddle Steamer Waverley - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362071/19566/47]
Posted by grahame at 10:57, 9th June 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
I would LOVE to be taking a trip this week ... but so much else going on, and that would be greedy. Also impractical.  Many trips sold out, Clevedon and Portishead both only reachable by slow coach (or slow bus) and the most practical excursion looked like one from Penarth until noted that the Severn Tunnel is closed and getting home at the end of the trip was impossible.  Ah well - September on the South Coast

P.S. Want a quick journey across the Severn without a car the week?  Best way - P.S. Waverley

Re: My new car, as yet unbuilt, is already in love with me
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [362070/30325/5]
Posted by Clan Line at 10:50, 9th June 2025
 
I've an idea that the standard colour is black, and I'm also paying  £581 extra for red.

When I bought my current car the only "free" colour was red - other colours were "available", inc black, at £500 + extra. What was it that Henry Ford said about his cars ?

Britain's Five Best Slow Train Journeys
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [362069/30332/49]
Posted by grahame at 10:32, 9th June 2025
 
From the BBC ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/travel/article/20250529-britains-five-best-slow-train-journeys

The bicentennial of this momentous event was the impetus for author, traveller and train enthusiast Tom Chesshyre's most recent book, Slow Trains Around Britain. For more than 20 years, Chesshyre has been riding the rails across the UK and around the world, totalling more than 40,000 miles in all.

Chesshyre recently sat down with the BBC to talk about his new book, what still makes rail travel so alluring and his favourite "slow-train" rides (regional train trips) in Britain.

Tywi Valley Path
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [362068/30331/50]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 10:29, 9th June 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby
 
A brand new railway cycle route in western territory - though an LNWR line this time rather than GWR. Carmarthenshire Council is building a cycleway along the old Carmarthen–Llandeilo line. The first (Carmarthen-end) half is now open: https://www.carmarthenshire.gov.wales/business/development-and-investment/tywi-valley-path/

Completion to Llandeilo by the end of the year, including two new river bridges. I think this is the biggest new railway path project in the UK for some years, though there are a few short paths bubbling under.

Re: Skip-stopping to catch up
In "Across the West" [362067/30329/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:18, 9th June 2025
Already liked by grahame, PrestburyRoad, Mark A
 
49 minutes late from Gloucester - 1 minute *early* into Exeter St David's

That's probably a text book example of where removing stops is an excellent idea.  Not having to take the detour via Weston and a scheduled 11 mintue layover at Taunton all contributing the that dramatic delay recovery.

I have seen other examples where it has been completely pointless.  It's taken extra time to get passengers off the train that wanted the missed station(s) at the previous stop and the train has then followed something else, a freight for example, and not made up any time at all.

It's a bit of a guessing game.

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362066/30307/55]
Posted by Electric train at 09:59, 9th June 2025
 
We may not have any wires but, just next to Wokingham station, we do still have a few poles. They had been hiding in the dense woodland that had been allowed to invade the slopes by the railway. As you can see, a lot of trees of similar girth were cut down and I was impressed that the chainsaw brigade could spot which ones were poles and leave them - even when camouflaged by ivy leaves.

Was there ever a siding or head shit there, these types of poles on the SR with only 2 insulators often had lighting on them, or it could have been an electricity supply for the local electricity company / board 

Re: Skip-stopping to catch up
In "Across the West" [362065/30329/26]
Posted by grahame at 09:56, 9th June 2025
 
It will be interesting to see how much time (if any, he says pessimistically) will be made up. JourneyCheck is simplistic and suggest "once delayed, always delayed" and forecasts a 10:04 rather than an 09:34 arrival into Exeter.   Real Time Trains tells us it was 50 minutes rather than 30 late as it left Gloucester, and predicts a 10:03 arrival into Exeter.

49 minutes late from Gloucester - 1 minute *early* into Exeter St David's


Skip-stopping to catch up
In "Across the West" [362063/30329/26]
Posted by grahame at 08:02, 9th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
06:58 Gloucester to Exeter St Davids due 09:34

06:58 Gloucester to Exeter St Davids due 09:34 will no longer call at Cam & Dursley, Yate, Bristol Parkway, Filton Abbey Wood, Bedminster, Parson Street, Nailsea & Backwell, Yatton, Worle, Weston Milton and Weston-Super-Mare.
It is being delayed at Gloucester and is now expected to be 30 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.

Gloucester - Bristol Temple Meads - Highbridge and Burnham and all (4) stations onwards to Exeter St Davids, 12 stations left out.    With 17 calls scheduled along the way, there were 153 journey opportunities scheduled, but with 6 calls left that's reduces to just just 21 opportunities - however, with it being half an hour late and with services much of the way running event half hour, many of the lost journey opportunities will have been replaced by something that's not too different to what would have been offered by the delayed train.

It will be interesting to see how much time (if any, he says pessimistically) will be made up. JourneyCheck is simplistic and suggest "once delayed, always delayed" and forecasts a 10:04 rather than an 09:34 arrival into Exeter.   Real Time Trains tells us it was 50 minutes rather than 30 late as it left Gloucester, and predicts a 10:03 arrival into Exeter.

Re: My new car, as yet unbuilt, is already in love with me
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [362062/30325/5]
Posted by matth1j at 07:54, 9th June 2025
 
Thanks, but the site's quoted price was £95 more than what I'm paying the dealer, who's also supplying £500 worth of  mats, extended warranty and a spacesaver wheel.
Excellent!

Re: Severn Tunnel - engineering improvements, events, incidents and history - merged posts
In "London to South Wales" [362061/3861/11]
Posted by grahame at 05:58, 9th June 2025
 
With the Severn Tunnel Closed ... could this happen at a worse time?

Cancellations to services between Bristol Parkway and Gloucester
Due to a points failure between Bristol Parkway and Gloucester all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed by up to 60 minutes. Disruption is expected until 07:00 09/06.
Customer Advice
What has happened?
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The points are not working correctly. Points are the moving pieces of metal which enable trains to change tracks.

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362060/30307/55]
Posted by stuving at 23:33, 8th June 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Western Pathfinder, eightonedee
 
We may not have any wires but, just next to Wokingham station, we do still have a few poles. They had been hiding in the dense woodland that had been allowed to invade the slopes by the railway. As you can see, a lot of trees of similar girth were cut down and I was impressed that the chainsaw brigade could spot which ones were poles and leave them - even when camouflaged by ivy leaves.

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362059/30307/55]
Posted by broadgage at 21:34, 8th June 2025
Already liked by grahame, Mark A, eightonedee
 
It is possible that some of the wires shown are not for railway purposes, but are part of the local telephone system.
Since the right of way and the support poles already existed, it was often economic to use the existing infrastructure for phone lines, rather than building a new route.
This was done in the UK and overseas.

A minority of UK telegraph line routes along railway lines had red insulators. These were used for a mains voltage electricity supply to remote signal boxes. Only a small current was available, limited to lighting and sometimes to battery charging.
Space heating and cooking was generally by coal or paraffin.

 
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