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9.6.2025 (Monday) 11:11 - All running AOK
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Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362075/30307/55]
Posted by broadgage at 11:06, 9th June 2025
 
Poles for floodlighting usually had only two wires, possibly more in very extensive installations. If arc lamps were used there was usually a winch to lower the whole lighting unit to near ground level for attention, as this was needed frequently. For filament lamps, or later mercury lamps, a ladder was often provided for lamp replacement.

A few installations used series lighting, whereby special lamps of low voltage were used in series on a high voltage supply. Never popular in the UK, more of a USA thing.

Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362074/30333/47]
Posted by grahame at 11:05, 9th June 2025
 
I see pictures of "Fenchurch" - a locomotive I associate with the Bluebell - hauling trains on the West Somerset Railway at present and she looks so out of place (and small).  And I see Romney Hythe and Dymchurch locos on the Bure Valley and on the Ravenglass and Eskdale.

Guest locomotives help, I suppose, bring back for another ride (and another wallet extraction) people who have become too familiar with the day to day options but ... are they right?   Am I too much of a purist to be put off by Fenchurch's escapades (to me, would be OK on Isle of Wight ) or is in fine and dandy?

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362073/30307/55]
Posted by stuving at 11:01, 9th June 2025
 
We may not have any wires but, just next to Wokingham station, we do still have a few poles. They had been hiding in the dense woodland that had been allowed to invade the slopes by the railway. As you can see, a lot of trees of similar girth were cut down and I was impressed that the chainsaw brigade could spot which ones were poles and leave them - even when camouflaged by ivy leaves.

Was there ever a siding or head shit there, these types of poles on the SR with only 2 insulators often had lighting on them, or it could have been an electricity supply for the local electricity company / board 

Exploiting the zoom effect in that photo, I can see more than by eye. For a start, the nearer pole is actually reinforced concrete, so might have won a game of scissors-paper-stone with a chainsaw. The two behind it do look round and wooden, though hard to see in detail. And why one has a ladder fixed to it, apparently wrapped in vegetation, who knows?

And while there's only the two running lines here (between the skew bridge in the picture and the footbridge the picture was taken from) in any of the old maps I've looked at, some time between the 1930s and 1960s the entry line for the goods yard at the station was extended into this section. There had always been an unused space for it under the footbridge, oddly.

Re: Announcement - Billions of investment on tram, train and bus projects.
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [362072/30318/40]
Posted by anthony215 at 11:00, 9th June 2025
 
I do think we will see filton bank being wired at least as far as. Temple meads and parson street.

siemens are pushing their battery trains and offering good financedeals.to pay for infrastructure investment for them so I'd say watch this space although TFW are starting a procurement process now.for new rolling stock jn addition to what they have now and they want to run to Bristol TM

Re: Paddle Steamer Waverley - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362071/19566/47]
Posted by grahame at 10:57, 9th June 2025
 
I would LOVE to be taking a trip this week ... but so much else going on, and that would be greedy. Also impractical.  Many trips sold out, Clevedon and Portishead both only reachable by slow coach (or slow bus) and the most practical excursion looked like one from Penarth until noted that the Severn Tunnel is closed and getting home at the end of the trip was impossible.  Ah well - September on the South Coast

P.S. Want a quick journey across the Severn without a car the week?  Best way - P.S. Waverley

Re: My new car, as yet unbuilt, is already in love with me
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [362070/30325/5]
Posted by Clan Line at 10:50, 9th June 2025
 
I've an idea that the standard colour is black, and I'm also paying  £581 extra for red.

When I bought my current car the only "free" colour was red - other colours were "available", inc black, at £500 + extra. What was it that Henry Ford said about his cars ?

Britain's Five Best Slow Train Journeys
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [362069/30332/49]
Posted by grahame at 10:32, 9th June 2025
 
From the BBC ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/travel/article/20250529-britains-five-best-slow-train-journeys

The bicentennial of this momentous event was the impetus for author, traveller and train enthusiast Tom Chesshyre's most recent book, Slow Trains Around Britain. For more than 20 years, Chesshyre has been riding the rails across the UK and around the world, totalling more than 40,000 miles in all.

Chesshyre recently sat down with the BBC to talk about his new book, what still makes rail travel so alluring and his favourite "slow-train" rides (regional train trips) in Britain.

Tywi Valley Path
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [362068/30331/50]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 10:29, 9th June 2025
 
A brand new railway cycle route in western territory - though an LNWR line this time rather than GWR. Carmarthenshire Council is building a cycleway along the old Carmarthen–Llandeilo line. The first (Carmarthen-end) half is now open: https://www.carmarthenshire.gov.wales/business/development-and-investment/tywi-valley-path/

Completion to Llandeilo by the end of the year, including two new river bridges. I think this is the biggest new railway path project in the UK for some years, though there are a few short paths bubbling under.

Re: Skip-stopping to catch up
In "Across the West" [362067/30329/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:18, 9th June 2025
Already liked by grahame, PrestburyRoad
 
49 minutes late from Gloucester - 1 minute *early* into Exeter St David's

That's probably a text book example of where removing stops is an excellent idea.  Not having to take the detour via Weston and a scheduled 11 mintue layover at Taunton all contributing the that dramatic delay recovery.

I have seen other examples where it has been completely pointless.  It's taken extra time to get passengers off the train that wanted the missed station(s) at the previous stop and the train has then followed something else, a freight for example, and not made up any time at all.

It's a bit of a guessing game.

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362066/30307/55]
Posted by Electric train at 09:59, 9th June 2025
 
We may not have any wires but, just next to Wokingham station, we do still have a few poles. They had been hiding in the dense woodland that had been allowed to invade the slopes by the railway. As you can see, a lot of trees of similar girth were cut down and I was impressed that the chainsaw brigade could spot which ones were poles and leave them - even when camouflaged by ivy leaves.

Was there ever a siding or head shit there, these types of poles on the SR with only 2 insulators often had lighting on them, or it could have been an electricity supply for the local electricity company / board 

Re: Skip-stopping to catch up
In "Across the West" [362065/30329/26]
Posted by grahame at 09:56, 9th June 2025
 
It will be interesting to see how much time (if any, he says pessimistically) will be made up. JourneyCheck is simplistic and suggest "once delayed, always delayed" and forecasts a 10:04 rather than an 09:34 arrival into Exeter.   Real Time Trains tells us it was 50 minutes rather than 30 late as it left Gloucester, and predicts a 10:03 arrival into Exeter.

49 minutes late from Gloucester - 1 minute *early* into Exeter St David's


Skip-stopping to catch up
In "Across the West" [362063/30329/26]
Posted by grahame at 08:02, 9th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
06:58 Gloucester to Exeter St Davids due 09:34

06:58 Gloucester to Exeter St Davids due 09:34 will no longer call at Cam & Dursley, Yate, Bristol Parkway, Filton Abbey Wood, Bedminster, Parson Street, Nailsea & Backwell, Yatton, Worle, Weston Milton and Weston-Super-Mare.
It is being delayed at Gloucester and is now expected to be 30 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.

Gloucester - Bristol Temple Meads - Highbridge and Burnham and all (4) stations onwards to Exeter St Davids, 12 stations left out.    With 17 calls scheduled along the way, there were 153 journey opportunities scheduled, but with 6 calls left that's reduces to just just 21 opportunities - however, with it being half an hour late and with services much of the way running event half hour, many of the lost journey opportunities will have been replaced by something that's not too different to what would have been offered by the delayed train.

It will be interesting to see how much time (if any, he says pessimistically) will be made up. JourneyCheck is simplistic and suggest "once delayed, always delayed" and forecasts a 10:04 rather than an 09:34 arrival into Exeter.   Real Time Trains tells us it was 50 minutes rather than 30 late as it left Gloucester, and predicts a 10:03 arrival into Exeter.

Re: My new car, as yet unbuilt, is already in love with me
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [362062/30325/5]
Posted by matth1j at 07:54, 9th June 2025
 
Thanks, but the site's quoted price was £95 more than what I'm paying the dealer, who's also supplying £500 worth of  mats, extended warranty and a spacesaver wheel.
Excellent!

Re: Severn Tunnel - engineering improvements, events, incidents and history - merged posts
In "London to South Wales" [362061/3861/11]
Posted by grahame at 05:58, 9th June 2025
 
With the Severn Tunnel Closed ... could this happen at a worse time?

Cancellations to services between Bristol Parkway and Gloucester
Due to a points failure between Bristol Parkway and Gloucester all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed by up to 60 minutes. Disruption is expected until 07:00 09/06.
Customer Advice
What has happened?
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The points are not working correctly. Points are the moving pieces of metal which enable trains to change tracks.

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362060/30307/55]
Posted by stuving at 23:33, 8th June 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Western Pathfinder, eightonedee
 
We may not have any wires but, just next to Wokingham station, we do still have a few poles. They had been hiding in the dense woodland that had been allowed to invade the slopes by the railway. As you can see, a lot of trees of similar girth were cut down and I was impressed that the chainsaw brigade could spot which ones were poles and leave them - even when camouflaged by ivy leaves.

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362059/30307/55]
Posted by broadgage at 21:34, 8th June 2025
Already liked by grahame, Mark A, eightonedee
 
It is possible that some of the wires shown are not for railway purposes, but are part of the local telephone system.
Since the right of way and the support poles already existed, it was often economic to use the existing infrastructure for phone lines, rather than building a new route.
This was done in the UK and overseas.

A minority of UK telegraph line routes along railway lines had red insulators. These were used for a mains voltage electricity supply to remote signal boxes. Only a small current was available, limited to lighting and sometimes to battery charging.
Space heating and cooking was generally by coal or paraffin.

Flight replacement buses.
In "The Lighter Side" [362056/30328/30]
Posted by JayMac at 20:33, 8th June 2025
 
We are well used to rail replacement buses in Great Britain.

They do things a bit differently in the USA. YouTube travel vlogger Noel Philips takes every American Airlines bus service one after the other.

https://youtu.be/1XD14BM4NCw?si=rC8088Yn87FzimN-


Re: Penleigh Park Level Crossing (Westbury Avoiding Line) Closure Application.
In "London to the West" [362055/30322/12]
Posted by Mark A at 20:12, 8th June 2025
 
Meanwhile, at Chirk and a few other locations, Network Rail / a new service / foot crossings.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4v02x69v6o

Mark

Re: Bath events: Friday 13th & Saturday 14th June
In "Across the West" [362054/30327/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:53, 8th June 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Wah! Thanks. My bad and hopefully the topic subject edit will wash through any replies.
Mark

It does - and I've also now added this topic to our Coffee Shop forum calendar.  Blimey, it will be particularly busy in Bath this weekend! 

CfN.


Re: Bath events: Friday 13th & Saturday 14th June
In "Across the West" [362053/30327/26]
Posted by Mark A at 18:56, 8th June 2025
 
Ah, I'm advised that for good measure, Saturday 14th June sees an event at Bath Racecourse.

Mark

Re: Bath events: Friday 13th & Saturday 14th June
In "Across the West" [362052/30327/26]
Posted by Mark A at 18:46, 8th June 2025
 
Wah! Thanks. My bad and hopefully the topic subject edit will wash through any replies.

Mark

Re: Bath events: Friday 13th & Saturday 14th April
In "Across the West" [362051/30327/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:00, 8th June 2025
 
Erm ... June, rather than April, in the heading? 

Bath events: Friday 13th & Saturday 14th June
In "Across the West" [362050/30327/26]
Posted by Mark A at 16:28, 8th June 2025
 
A pair of open days at Bath University tends to bring the place to a halt. This year, two 25,000 capacity concerts at the Royal Crescent coincide with the University open days on 13th - 14th June, so it might be good if you're out and about, to take these two events into account.

Mark

From the VisitBath web site, the timings for the concert:

    Doors 4:00 pm
    The Lottery Winners 7:00 pm
    Set Change 7:45 pm
    RW 8:30 pm
    End of Show 10:20 pm
    Curfew 10:30 pm

Re: Severn Tunnel - engineering improvements, events, incidents and history - merged posts
In "London to South Wales" [362049/3861/11]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:51, 8th June 2025
 
TfW won't cope with GWRs traffic as well as theirs?

Re: Severn Tunnel - engineering improvements, events, incidents and history - merged posts
In "London to South Wales" [362047/3861/11]
Posted by grahame at 14:23, 8th June 2025
 
Change at Gloucester/Cheltenham eh? Not today you couldn't - XC are very limited service owing to no Sunday drivers on that route!

Why not - GWR and Transport for Wales?   Agreed it'll be quite thin

Re: Penleigh Park Level Crossing (Westbury Avoiding Line) Closure Application.
In "London to the West" [362046/30322/12]
Posted by Mark A at 14:15, 8th June 2025
 
The other side of that coin is that incremental improvement in accessibility is for the general good of everyone - every one of us is more or less able at various stages of our lives. That crossing is on a route to school, so a step-free bridge will benefit us all.

Mark

 
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