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Well that's weird - no, still not working for me, at least not on my laptop. But it's ok on my phone.
Perhaps it's my (work) laptop's VPN that's getting in the way, although it doesn't seem to affect anything else.
| Dreadful GWR performance figures In "Across the West" [376110/32150/26] Posted by John D at 07:39, 19th June 2026 | ![]() |
GWR have recently published latest 4 weekly performance
Covers 3 - 30 May 2026
https://www.gwr.com/-/media/gwr-sc-website/files/publications/performance-report/gwr-performance-report-period-2702.pdf
Cancellations 4.44%
with huge 9.89% on South Wales-South coast routes
Less than 3 in 5 trains on time (59.28%)
Nearly 1 in 4 not within more relaxed within 3 minutes
4.33% of those than ran, were more than 15 minutes late.
349 trains (about 12.5 per day) were shortformed below DfT agreed length
Anyone else think standards are clearly slipping now, in run up to their nationalisation.
| Re: And for my third trip on this year's Interrail pass .. In "Introductions and chat" [376109/32142/1] Posted by Mark A at 07:37, 19th June 2026 | ![]() |
Delighted that the (first half) of your travel plans for yesterday worked out (and that the skies were good too.) And that the train presumably had air-con.
Mark
| Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376108/32149/40] Posted by John D at 07:25, 19th June 2026 | ![]() |
Will the arrival into Parliament of Andy Burnham - who's done so much to flagship changes and developments of public transport in the Manchester area, and who's a Labour heavyweight make any difference indirectly to the government's direction and approaches to public transport - trains, buses, etc, in the south / west of England and South Wales?
Manchester (for which Andy is famous) has a high population density (a.k.a. is largely urban). Would he be inclined to make a difference in urban areas such as Bristol, Plymouth and Exeter or would his influence across the UK spread to areas which are described as "rural" but which are in practice a series of urban townships where most people live, separated from one another by a handful of miles of countryside?
Manchester (for which Andy is famous) has a high population density (a.k.a. is largely urban). Would he be inclined to make a difference in urban areas such as Bristol, Plymouth and Exeter or would his influence across the UK spread to areas which are described as "rural" but which are in practice a series of urban townships where most people live, separated from one another by a handful of miles of countryside?
Difficult to know how he sees more rural Britain, he was born near Liverpool, grew up in Culcheth (a village north east across motorway from Warrington), attended school in Newton-le-Willows, went to Cambridge University. So most of his first 20 years was in smaller towns rather than busy urban areas.
But seems he understands the other metro mayors, so might be more sympathetic to Bristol, and apparently isn't a great fan of London centric policies. So I think it will be case of wait and see.
Hi - it's working for me from here, at the moment. Perhaps something went offline first thing. Is it working for you too, now?
Mark
| Re: Stonehenge - National Monument in Wiltshire: merged posts, ongoing discussion In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376106/22806/31] Posted by Marlburian at 07:11, 19th June 2026 | ![]() |
There have been various theories about how some of the stones were transported apparently hundreds of miles, but one might also consider the logistics of assembling the construction workers and their families from a wide area and then feeding them during their labours.
Were the workers rotated, returning home after some months, or did they settle permanently nearby?
No doubt a few at least of the countless books about Stonehenge cover such points.
(The same points also relate to Avebury, Silbury Hill and Wansdyke - the rampart and deep ditch that crosses Wiltshire, with the most impressive stretch being east of the Beckhampton-Devizes road.)
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Posted at the same time as those alterations were “additional” trains from Westbury to Southampton Central and Swindon to Worcester Foregate Street.
So at least some commuters were served.
So at least some commuters were served.
Indeed - somewhat ironic that the extras were on sections of the route where there are alternatives. Just saying.
| Re: And for my third trip on this year's Interrail pass .. In "Introductions and chat" [376103/32142/1] Posted by grahame at 06:11, 19th June 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Excellent. Hope you made the train. Hope you ever have mobile signal again...
Mark
Mark
I made the train and indeed 5.25 hours later have arrived in Nimes ... to find all the other trains in utter chaos due to "person hit by train". Stopping for lunch.
Some picture from that trip ... though they don't do the line justice. Stops, panorama pictures, non-reflective windows and fewer line side trees would all have helped ...





Thoroughly recommend - pictures don't do justice to the scenery. Three trains a day (if I had missed the 06:45, next would have left at lunch time). Few through passengers, but significant numbers towards the ends of the line where we started with a substantial commuter traffic, and a sprinkling along the way too getting on and off at the townships we called at.
And on arrival in Nimes ...

Posted at the same time as those alterations were “additional” trains from Westbury to Southampton Central and Swindon to Worcester Foregate Street.
So at least some commuters were served.
| Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376101/32149/40] Posted by grahame at 05:28, 19th June 2026 | ![]() |
Will the arrival into Parliament of Andy Burnham - who's done so much to flagship changes and developments of public transport in the Manchester area, and who's a Labour heavyweight make any difference indirectly to the government's direction and approaches to public transport - trains, buses, etc, in the south / west of England and South Wales?
Manchester (for which Andy is famous) has a high population density (a.k.a. is largely urban). Would he be inclined to make a difference in urban areas such as Bristol, Plymouth and Exeter or would his influence across the UK spread to areas which are described as "rural" but which are in practice a series of urban townships where most people live, separated from one another by a handful of miles of countryside?
| Handling of customer delays - a key to passenger satisfaction In "Across the West" [376100/32148/26] Posted by grahame at 05:15, 19th June 2026 | ![]() |
I noted a BBC report yesterday at https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36y5ezr0k7o
Transport Focus chief executive Alex Robertson said: "This is the first report of its kind.
"I'm optimistic the railway understands the importance of using it to create a more customer focused culture and we'll be holding them to account to make sure they do."
The chief executive also stated more than nine in 10 people would report a positive experience if a delay was "handled well – a remarkably high figure given their train is late – but this falls to one in four when it isn't".
"I'm optimistic the railway understands the importance of using it to create a more customer focused culture and we'll be holding them to account to make sure they do."
The chief executive also stated more than nine in 10 people would report a positive experience if a delay was "handled well – a remarkably high figure given their train is late – but this falls to one in four when it isn't".
I note he finds it "remarkable" that the figure is so high. I don't - it just confirms the incredible importance of helping customers if their journeys are held up, in addition to the operational matters of getting things running sweetly again.
Oh dear ...
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:10
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:10 will be terminated at Swindon.
It will no longer call at Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Dilton Marsh, Warminster, Salisbury, Romsey and Southampton Central.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:10 will be terminated at Swindon.
It will no longer call at Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Dilton Marsh, Warminster, Salisbury, Romsey and Southampton Central.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47
06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47 will be terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Trowbridge, Melksham, Chippenham, Swindon, Kemble, Stroud, Stonehouse, Gloucester, Cheltenham Spa, Ashchurch For Tewkesbury, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47 will be terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Trowbridge, Melksham, Chippenham, Swindon, Kemble, Stroud, Stonehouse, Gloucester, Cheltenham Spa, Ashchurch For Tewkesbury, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
We are not the only ones ... Gunnislake also lost their first train and in our area also
07:00 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 08:20
09:08 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 10:26
11:03 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 12:13
13:09 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 14:29
21:10 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 22:27
21:10 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 22:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
09:08 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 10:26
11:03 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 12:13
13:09 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 14:29
21:10 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 22:27
21:10 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 22:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
No advice to passengers on Journeycheck as what they should do. With the 06:29 southbound cancelled at Melksham, the next train is at 09:10 - ouch. With the 07:21 in the other direction cancelled, the first train in the 08:02. With both trains cancelled, connections to the Bristol travel-to-work area are blown. Normal customer advice would be to catch the 271/272 bus to Manver Street in Bath and cross the road into Bath Spa station for an ongoing train, but road works in Bath have Manvers Street closed for the summer and autumn.
Cut and paste passenger advice (not given this time) suggests "Option 4 - consider postponing your journey" which just might be OK for the leisure market. My personal suggestion would be the Bath bus and walk across the city for fit people, or perhaps the x34 to Trowbridge (Trinity Church for the station) or Chippenham (where the early and Sunday services call at the railway station).
| Re: Collision between two trains at Llanbrynmair, in Powys, Wales - 21 October 2024 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376098/29345/51] Posted by Mark A at 21:02, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
30mph. Ugh. Passenger here: to any drivers reading this, in the most unlikely case that you find your train is in this predicament, it's fine, once you've set its systems to do their best, to see you out of your cab and heading down the first carriage.
Mark
| Re: Birmingham based CrossCountry ranked Britain's worst train operator - March 2026 In "Cross Country services" [376097/32147/43] Posted by ChrisB at 20:30, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
And Chiltern are somewhat surprisingly, bottom of the LSE operators.
| Birmingham based CrossCountry ranked Britain's worst train operator - March 2026 In "Cross Country services" [376096/32147/43] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:17, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Birmingham based CrossCountry ranked Britain's worst train operator
Train operator CrossCountry has been told to raise its performance, after receiving the worst score in a passenger survey.
In three months to the end of March, 72% of Birmingham-based CrossCountry's stops at stations were made within three minutes of the schedule, while 7% of services were cancelled, said Transport Focus.
The watchdog added that of those surveyed, 79% were satisfied with the Arriva Group-owned operator, 77% reported being satisfied with their journey's punctuality and reliability, and 46% said they were satisfied with how the company dealt with delays. The operator said despite slight improvements in some areas, it knew it "must do more to deliver the service our customers rightly deserve".
Transport Focus has asked CrossCountry to improve the passenger experience, reduce delays, provide better information during disruption and cut overcrowding on services.
Hull Trains achieved the best overall satisfaction score at 94%, followed by LNER with 93%.
87% of passengers overall said they were satisfied with their journey and disabled passengers reported lower satisfaction than non-disabled passengers, at 85%. More than 100,000 passengers were questioned in the six months to the end of March.
CrossCountry, the Arriva Group-owned operator, runs long-distance trains serving cities such as Cambridge, Cardiff and Manchester.
Mark Anderson, CrossCountry's customer and commercial director, said that looking forward, its refurbished trains were "transforming" journeys and its new timetable was "delivering better regional connectivity across the country".
"We're always working to improve onboard experience – from cleaning to catering, better wi-fi and clearer information during disruption. In particular, we know that crowding is a challenge and we're working with industry partners to explore all possible options to ease this."
Transport Focus chief executive Alex Robertson said: "This is the first report of its kind. I'm optimistic the railway understands the importance of using it to create a more customer focused culture and we'll be holding them to account to make sure they do."
The chief executive also stated more than nine in 10 people would report a positive experience if a delay was "handled well – a remarkably high figure given their train is late – but this falls to one in four when it isn't".
(BBC article includes graphics, with drop-down menus for individual providers)
Train operator CrossCountry has been told to raise its performance, after receiving the worst score in a passenger survey.
In three months to the end of March, 72% of Birmingham-based CrossCountry's stops at stations were made within three minutes of the schedule, while 7% of services were cancelled, said Transport Focus.
The watchdog added that of those surveyed, 79% were satisfied with the Arriva Group-owned operator, 77% reported being satisfied with their journey's punctuality and reliability, and 46% said they were satisfied with how the company dealt with delays. The operator said despite slight improvements in some areas, it knew it "must do more to deliver the service our customers rightly deserve".
Transport Focus has asked CrossCountry to improve the passenger experience, reduce delays, provide better information during disruption and cut overcrowding on services.
Hull Trains achieved the best overall satisfaction score at 94%, followed by LNER with 93%.
87% of passengers overall said they were satisfied with their journey and disabled passengers reported lower satisfaction than non-disabled passengers, at 85%. More than 100,000 passengers were questioned in the six months to the end of March.
CrossCountry, the Arriva Group-owned operator, runs long-distance trains serving cities such as Cambridge, Cardiff and Manchester.
Mark Anderson, CrossCountry's customer and commercial director, said that looking forward, its refurbished trains were "transforming" journeys and its new timetable was "delivering better regional connectivity across the country".
"We're always working to improve onboard experience – from cleaning to catering, better wi-fi and clearer information during disruption. In particular, we know that crowding is a challenge and we're working with industry partners to explore all possible options to ease this."
Transport Focus chief executive Alex Robertson said: "This is the first report of its kind. I'm optimistic the railway understands the importance of using it to create a more customer focused culture and we'll be holding them to account to make sure they do."
The chief executive also stated more than nine in 10 people would report a positive experience if a delay was "handled well – a remarkably high figure given their train is late – but this falls to one in four when it isn't".
(BBC article includes graphics, with drop-down menus for individual providers)
| Re: Stonehenge - National Monument in Wiltshire: merged posts, ongoing discussion In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376095/22806/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:58, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
An update, from the BBC:
Simpler, older version of Stonehenge found three miles from famous site
Archaeologists believe they have discovered an earlier, much simpler version of Stonehenge about 3 miles (5km) away from the prehistoric monument.
All that remains of the older structure is two holes in the ground, but the team says they held wooden posts that lined up with the Sun on the summer and winter solstices - the longest and shortest days of the year - in the same way as Stonehenge.
The site has been dated to about 5,000 years old, which predates Stonehenge by 500 years. Artefacts were also found at the site, including pottery, flint tools and animal bone, suggesting prehistoric people held gatherings there.
Phil Harding, from Wessex Archaeology, who led the excavation, said it was one of the best finds of his long career. "Two post pits tell me [much] more about the people 5,000 years ago," he said. "This tells me about the whole community, this tells me about how they were thinking, how they were behaving, how they were revering the heavens."
......
The structure, discovered in the village of Bulford, was a much more simple construction made up of just two wooden posts, which have long since rotted away. They were positioned 120m (394ft) apart and estimated to be between 2m and 4m high.
When Harding uncovered the intriguing holes, he noticed that they seemed to line up with the Sun, just like Stonehenge located a few miles away. "I got my pencil and ruler, and I joined them up, and I was aware that they were kind of pointing in the general direction of the sunrise on midsummer," he said.
(BBC article continues, with more details, images and explanations)
Archaeologists believe they have discovered an earlier, much simpler version of Stonehenge about 3 miles (5km) away from the prehistoric monument.
All that remains of the older structure is two holes in the ground, but the team says they held wooden posts that lined up with the Sun on the summer and winter solstices - the longest and shortest days of the year - in the same way as Stonehenge.
The site has been dated to about 5,000 years old, which predates Stonehenge by 500 years. Artefacts were also found at the site, including pottery, flint tools and animal bone, suggesting prehistoric people held gatherings there.
Phil Harding, from Wessex Archaeology, who led the excavation, said it was one of the best finds of his long career. "Two post pits tell me [much] more about the people 5,000 years ago," he said. "This tells me about the whole community, this tells me about how they were thinking, how they were behaving, how they were revering the heavens."
......
The structure, discovered in the village of Bulford, was a much more simple construction made up of just two wooden posts, which have long since rotted away. They were positioned 120m (394ft) apart and estimated to be between 2m and 4m high.
When Harding uncovered the intriguing holes, he noticed that they seemed to line up with the Sun, just like Stonehenge located a few miles away. "I got my pencil and ruler, and I joined them up, and I was aware that they were kind of pointing in the general direction of the sunrise on midsummer," he said.
(BBC article continues, with more details, images and explanations)
While this has absolutely nothing to do with the railways, public transport or indeed any other means of travel, I do recommend it as a fascinating development in our understanding of history.
CfN.

| Re: New ORR data, GWR shrinks 3% in a year In "Across the West" [376094/32145/26] Posted by grahame at 18:41, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
Just had a thought, if the branch lines affected by flooding were operated by short trains, which were suspended, and train lengths on average got shorter, then figures to some extent masking bigger train lengths cuts elsewhere on network
Gotta love stats!
| Re: Collision between two trains at Llanbrynmair, in Powys, Wales - 21 October 2024 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376093/29345/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:59, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
An update, from the BBC:
Train crash that killed one man and injured four others could have been avoided
A head-on fatal collision between two trains in mid Wales could have been avoided, an investigation has found.
One passenger died and four other people were seriously injured when two trains collided in the village of Talerddig, Powys, in October 2024.
An investigation by the Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) has concluded the crash would not have happened if one or both of the automatic and manual sanding systems - which increase wheel adhesion to the rails - had been activated.
Transport for Wales (TfW) and Network Rail said that while incidents of this nature were "extremely rare", they would consider the report's recommendations to "help prevent a similar incident".
Tudor Evans from Capel Dewi in Aberystwyth was travelling home from a holiday in Italy when he died on the westbound train.
The 66-year-old was a passenger in the rear carriage of the train to Aberystwyth, as were other people who were seriously injured in the crash just before 19:00 on 21 October, 2024.
The driver of the Shrewsbury train was also seriously injured – the RAIB said he was in the process of leaving the cab when the crash happened and became trapped.
The trains, both operated by Transport for Wales, were travelling on the Cambrian Line. Most of the Cambrian Line is single track but there is a section of dual track near to where the crash happened called the Talerddig Loop. The trains were meant to pass each other in the loop but, on the night of the collision, the train heading towards Aberystwyth was unable to stop despite the brakes being fully applied.
The RAIB said the train slid through the loop and rejoined the single-track section, continuing towards a slope heading for the train coming from the opposite direction. As it slid down the hill, the train gathered speed and collided head on with the train heading towards Shrewsbury.
The RAIB investigators found that, at the point of impact, the Aberystwyth train was travelling at 24mph, and the Shrewsbury train at just 6mph – the driver of the Shrewsbury train had managed to slow down after being warned by the signaller that the other train had failed to stop in the loop. However, due to the failed sanding systems and low wheel-rail adhesion, the speed "was such that the deceleration required to slow the train for the loop could not be sustained".
Both trains involved were fitted with two separate sanding systems – an automatic one which is designed to deliver sand when the train is braking, and an emergency sander, which is activated manually to deliver sand to the front wheels.
The report found "the automatic sander did not function, probably due to the presence of electrical faults in its control circuit, while the manually-operated emergency sander was not activated by the driver". It also noted the "driver stated that it had not occurred to them to use the emergency sanders", with the author of the report adding the driver was not made aware that the automatic system had not sprayed sand on the train's wheels. The report also concluded that adverse weather conditions were another crucial factor in causing the collision.
The RAIB recommended that Transport for Wales should review training, development and processes to ensure train drivers are "competent in actions which may be required in abnormal or emergency situations, and that this competency is appropriately maintained". It added the review should "specifically consider the competencies relating to making emergency calls and the use of emergency sanding systems".
(BBC article continues)
A head-on fatal collision between two trains in mid Wales could have been avoided, an investigation has found.
One passenger died and four other people were seriously injured when two trains collided in the village of Talerddig, Powys, in October 2024.
An investigation by the Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) has concluded the crash would not have happened if one or both of the automatic and manual sanding systems - which increase wheel adhesion to the rails - had been activated.
Transport for Wales (TfW) and Network Rail said that while incidents of this nature were "extremely rare", they would consider the report's recommendations to "help prevent a similar incident".
Tudor Evans from Capel Dewi in Aberystwyth was travelling home from a holiday in Italy when he died on the westbound train.
The 66-year-old was a passenger in the rear carriage of the train to Aberystwyth, as were other people who were seriously injured in the crash just before 19:00 on 21 October, 2024.
The driver of the Shrewsbury train was also seriously injured – the RAIB said he was in the process of leaving the cab when the crash happened and became trapped.
The trains, both operated by Transport for Wales, were travelling on the Cambrian Line. Most of the Cambrian Line is single track but there is a section of dual track near to where the crash happened called the Talerddig Loop. The trains were meant to pass each other in the loop but, on the night of the collision, the train heading towards Aberystwyth was unable to stop despite the brakes being fully applied.
The RAIB said the train slid through the loop and rejoined the single-track section, continuing towards a slope heading for the train coming from the opposite direction. As it slid down the hill, the train gathered speed and collided head on with the train heading towards Shrewsbury.
The RAIB investigators found that, at the point of impact, the Aberystwyth train was travelling at 24mph, and the Shrewsbury train at just 6mph – the driver of the Shrewsbury train had managed to slow down after being warned by the signaller that the other train had failed to stop in the loop. However, due to the failed sanding systems and low wheel-rail adhesion, the speed "was such that the deceleration required to slow the train for the loop could not be sustained".
Both trains involved were fitted with two separate sanding systems – an automatic one which is designed to deliver sand when the train is braking, and an emergency sander, which is activated manually to deliver sand to the front wheels.
The report found "the automatic sander did not function, probably due to the presence of electrical faults in its control circuit, while the manually-operated emergency sander was not activated by the driver". It also noted the "driver stated that it had not occurred to them to use the emergency sanders", with the author of the report adding the driver was not made aware that the automatic system had not sprayed sand on the train's wheels. The report also concluded that adverse weather conditions were another crucial factor in causing the collision.
The RAIB recommended that Transport for Wales should review training, development and processes to ensure train drivers are "competent in actions which may be required in abnormal or emergency situations, and that this competency is appropriately maintained". It added the review should "specifically consider the competencies relating to making emergency calls and the use of emergency sanding systems".
(BBC article continues)
The full Rail Accident Investigation Branch report is available on the RAIB website.
| Re: New ORR data, GWR shrinks 3% in a year In "Across the West" [376092/32145/26] Posted by John D at 17:30, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
Just had a thought, if the branch lines affected by flooding were operated by short trains, which were suspended, and train lengths on average got shorter, then figures to some extent masking bigger train lengths cuts elsewhere on network
| Re: New ORR data, GWR shrinks 3% in a year In "Across the West" [376091/32145/26] Posted by John D at 17:27, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
Thought it worth a topic, because clearly cutting the trains whilst increasing passengers is controversial
It *is* (worth a topic) but we need to be very careful in how we read the stats. Is there a stat reporting the distance or time the average passenger spends on a train? Especially over the years. If journey length drops, then more people can use the same seat ... I'm not suggesting it's happened.
Yes, the quarterly summary takes data from ORR spreadsheets that are public, so if for instance want to compare to say 2019 (last year pre-Covid) or compare to say 10 or 15 years ago, can do so.
ORR tables give numbers for each Operator
table 1223 is number of passenger journeys
table 1233 is passenger km (passengers multiplied by distance)
So if divide one by other get average journey length
table 1243 is train km (distance operated)
table 1253 is vehicle (each carriage) km
So if divide, get average number of carriages per train
Clearly can compare average number of carriages now, to earlier dates, or do other ratios such as average number of passengers per coach, or change in average journey length etc.
Of course if go back to far, then need to factor in things like 26m IET vehicles vs 23m HST coaches which distorts crowding as number of seats in each type are different.
| Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR) In "Across the West" [376090/28982/26] Posted by REVUpminster at 14:53, 18th June 2026 Already liked by GBM | ![]() |
Another move from Wolverton cancelled today. Probably only wanted for spare parts. The Paignton training train only lasted two days.
14 trains and lucky if a third operational. If they had shown such patience with the 769s..
GWR management must be demob happy. He who laughs last has found someone else to blame.| Re: New ORR data, GWR shrinks 3% in a year In "Across the West" [376089/32145/26] Posted by grahame at 14:43, 18th June 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Thought it worth a topic, because clearly cutting the trains whilst increasing passengers is controversial
It *is* (worth a topic) but we need to be very careful in how we read the stats. Is there a stat reporting the distance or time the average passenger spends on a train? Especially over the years. If journey length drops, then more people can use the same seat ... I'm not suggesting it's happened.
I could also point out that shortening quieter (mid evening trains and late night trains on Monday to Wednesday) may be an efficiency saving - plenty of space. "At home" I welcome 3 carriages rather than 2 on daytime trains - but on the trains between 19:00 and 21:00 2 is adequate and 3 - when it happens - unnecessary.
The canal people have plans, also, there are proposals for a major housing development at Pewsham. It would be good if the latter didn't clash with the former and there's an opportunity to influence the developers.
Mark
https://www.pewshamchippenham.co.uk/next-steps-and-feedback/
Network Rail have published their first Portishead line newsletter with extra drop in days next week.
I have signed up to receive digital notifications about the restoration of the railway from Bristol to Portishead – and welcome to the first edition of our newsletter. We’ll be sharing updates of progress on site, traffic management and dates of future community drop-ins. Please get in touch if you have any questions. You’ll find all our details at the end of this email.
Community drop-in sessions
Our next sessions will be held on:
Tuesday 23 June, 3.30 - 7.30pm, Pill Community Centre
Thursday 25 June, 3.30 - 7.30pm, Somerset Hall, Portishead
Everyone is welcome to attend. Our team will be available with more information and to take any questions.
Progress in Portishead
In Portishead, we're setting up our site compound off Harbour Road. A new road and roundabout is being built to move Quays Avenue closer to Sainsburys. This creates space for the new Portishead station.
To allow work to progress, a one-way system will be in use on Harbour Road between Newfoundland Way and the roundabout from Monday 22 June until autumn 2026. Traffic will only flow east, towards the roundabout. A diversion via Wyndham Way and Station Road will be clearly signposted.
Portishead to Sheepway
Between Portishead and Sheepway we've been preparing the area ready for new track to be laid. Tree stumps have been removed, vegetation has been cleared and the old track has been taken up.
Marsh Lane bridge
Marsh Lane bridge is one of four bridges between Portishead and Pill that carries traffic over the railway. They all need to be strengthened to keep the future railway safe. Work to Marsh Lane bridge was completed ahead of schedule, with the road now reopened to traffic. Additional masonry repairs took place to the Victorian structure.
Sheepway bridge
From 25 June until October, we’re strengthening Sheepway bridge. There will be no access for vehicles or pedestrians and a diversion will be clearly signposted. The X4 bus will be diverted via The Portbury Hundred and a shuttle bus will operate between Station Road, Portbury, and Sainsbury’s in Portishead from 7am to 7pm, seven days a week.
Progress in Pill
In Pill, a significant milestone has been achieved with the demolition of the old Station House. This makes way for the new station forecourt. Our site compound at Monmouth Road is being established, with hoardings now erected to help contain dust and noise.
Starting on Monday 29 June until autumn 2026, work will begin to excavate the embankment alongside the railway. This will create space for the new station platform.
Pill Memorial Club
We'll soon begin work to improve the bus stops near Pill Memorial Club. To allow the work to take place, four-way traffic lights will be in place on Lodway, Heywood Road, Station Road and Pill Memorial Club from 3 August to 27 November.
Marsh Lane right of way diversion
To prevent construction traffic from driving through Pill, we're creating a temporary haul road from Marsh Lane to Pill station. To allow this to happen, the public right of way between Marsh Lane bridge and Pill will be temporarily diverted from Monday 6 July until construction is complete in 2028. A clearly signed diversion will be in place via Marsh Lane, Church Road, Debecca’s Lane, Stoneyfields and Lodway Close.
| New ORR data, GWR shrinks 3% in a year In "Across the West" [376086/32145/26] Posted by John D at 13:19, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
The latest quarterly passenger usage data has been issued by ORR covering Jan-March 2026
Per table 5 GWR ran 0.9% less trains than previous year
Per table 6 GWR ran 3% less vehicle km than previous year
GWR is at bottom (worst position by Operator) in both tables
So not only did it shrink in a year, trains had on average 2% less carriages.
Some of the 0.9% cut could be put down to flooding problems on Looe and Barnstaple lines, suspending services, but that doesn't explain the shortening of trains
Table 2 shows GWR had +2% more passengers, so that means on average had about 3% passenger increase per train (and on basis didn't add seats, that means 3% harder to find a seat)
Table 3 gives passenger km, and that was 0.3% up
Clearly this is a complete mismatch to the 3% cut in vehicle km
So basically (on average) trying to squeeze about 2-3 extra people per carriage.
https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/j1mdc31j/passenger-rail-usage-jan-mar-2026.pdf
Thought it worth a topic, because clearly cutting the trains whilst increasing passengers is controversial
| Re: And for my third trip on this year's Interrail pass .. In "Introductions and chat" [376085/32142/1] Posted by Mark A at 13:02, 18th June 2026 | ![]() |
I probably could have done without discovering the LIDAR mapping for France, but, it can't be helped and now I have. Not a railway on which Graham will have travelled as it never saw tracks: here's a link to lidar covering the trackbed of the Transcévenole, near the village of Présailles, at the point that construction finally ended. Immediately beyond would have been the site of yet another large viaduct. Hoping the URL will survive as a link even if the railway never attained that status...
Mark
https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/carte?c=4.037808565578534,44.88038826463787&z=16&l0=ORTHOIMAGERY.ORTHOPHOTOS::GEOPORTAIL:OGC:WMTS(1)&l1=IGNF_LIDAR-HD_MNT_ELEVATION.ELEVATIONGRIDCOVERAGE.SHADOW(1)&l2=IGNF_LIDAR-HD_MNS_ELEVATION.ELEVATIONGRIDCOVERAGE.SHADOW(0.6)&permalink=yes
| Re: How would YOU solve CrossCountry ? In "Across the West" [376084/32138/26] Posted by a-driver at 12:24, 18th June 2026 Already liked by GBM | ![]() |
Avoid anything made by Hitachi, as that has become a toxic brand.
I’d tend to agree…. but with nationalisation round the corner it would make more sense to go with Hitachi IETs. Current GWR crews could then easily cover current XC work.
| Re: How would YOU solve CrossCountry ? In "Across the West" [376083/32138/26] Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 11:53, 18th June 2026 Already liked by Mark A, trainbuff | ![]() |
In the absence of a replacement for the Voyagers, I'd increase regional services on the CrossCountry routes where there's overcrowding.
So more GWR services on Oxford–Banbury. More Chiltern services on Banbury–Birmingham (and that's happening!). More regional services on Cheltenham–Birmingham – perhaps by extending the TfW service from Cardiff. An EMU shuttle from Birmingham to Manchester using the spare 350s.
I know each of these have their own challenges. But generally I think expecting long-distance CrossCountry services to be the main provider for local journeys is a fool's errand.
| Re: And for my third trip on this year's Interrail pass .. In "Introductions and chat" [376082/32142/1] Posted by grahame at 11:39, 18th June 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Excellent. Hope you made the train. Hope you ever have mobile signal again...
Mark
Mark
I made the train and indeed 5.25 hours later have arrived in Nimes ... to find all the other trains in utter chaos due to "person hit by train". Stopping for lunch.














