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9.6.2025 (Monday) 21:43 - All running AOK
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Re: Flight replacement buses.
In "The Lighter Side" [362098/30328/30]
Posted by Timmer at 21:36, 9th June 2025
 
Watched this last night, most interesting. I’d heard about it but didn’t pay much attention to planes being replaced by buses.

It was mentioned during the video that doing short flights with buses instead of planes is going to increase with other airlines starting down this route as well as AA.

Re: Broadgage unwell.
In "Introductions and chat" [362097/26962/1]
Posted by TonyK at 20:35, 9th June 2025
 

I always felt a bit uneasy at killing large numbers of beetles, not for some important medical purpose, or even as food, but simply for a decorative colouring agent.

So did I, although I stopped after only a short time.

Re: Announcement - Billions of investment on tram, train and bus projects.
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [362096/30318/40]
Posted by TonyK at 20:31, 9th June 2025
 
This bit made me chuckle:


With the West of England Mayoral Combined Authority area already benefitting from a nearly 50% increase in funding to fix potholes this year compared to last year, we are paving the way to the future.

Hopefully, not to be taken literally! Much prefer rail.

As with Red Squirrel, I hope tram-train is not ruled out. They're commonplace in a bit of Yorkshire, and will be in south Wales ere long. Once the wires are up along Filton Bank and to Thingley, they could work wonders for mass transit around Bristol. It needs a bit more imagination than has been obvious in past times, but now is the time to Do Something, lest the Chancellor changes her mind because of dithering. The problem is that Bristol will gain most whatever happens, or so it will seem, so the positives and potential for the other areas need to be detailed.

Re: My new car, as yet unbuilt, is already in love with me
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [362095/30325/5]
Posted by Marlburian at 20:07, 9th June 2025
 
In 1974 we had a Vauxhall Viva as an office car: smelly plastic upholstery, three gears with the lever on the steering column.  It once had a punctured tyre when I was on my way to a meeting in a suit.  I managed to change the wheel and arrive in time, with only slightly grubby hands.

When my Ford Fiesta hit a huge pothole a few weeks ago and the tyre blew out, I didn't hesitate to call the AA. I couldn't face working out how the curious jack worked and where to place it under the low-slung chassis. Despite my being out in the sticks, the AA was with me within an hour and my spacesaver fitted within another ten minutes.

Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362094/30333/47]
Posted by Andy at 19:36, 9th June 2025
 
It's good for the railways to be able to have a fresh face in their line-up, and a visiting loco gets to be a star during an event or for a season. Smaller and fledgling railways who don't have a regular ex-big railway loco can finance a visitor to raise their profile, too.


That said, seeing a GWR loco in a GWR setting or a diesel hydraulic on its home turf is special...

Re: 'The Day of the Jackal', by Frederick Forsyth
In "Introductions and chat" [362093/30335/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:35, 9th June 2025
 
Sadly, Frederick Forsyth has died, aged 86.

From the BBC:




Best-selling author Frederick Forsyth, known for thriller novels including The Day Of The Jackal, has died at the age of 86, his agent has said.

"We mourn the passing of one of the world's greatest thriller writers," Jonathan Lloyd said in a statement.

Forsyth published more than 25 books, also including The Odessa File and The Dogs of War, and sold 75 million books around the world, he said.

His publisher Bill Scott-Kerr said: "Still read by millions across the world, Freddie's thrillers define the genre and are still the benchmark to which contemporary writers aspire. He leaves behind a peerless legacy which will continue to excite and entertain for years to come."

Born in Kent in 1938, Forsyth joined the RAF at the age of 18 before becoming a war correspondent for the BBC and Reuters. He revealed in 2015 he also worked for British intelligence agency MI6 for more than 20 years. Many of his fictional plots drew on his real-life experiences around the world.

He made his name with his first novel, 1971's The Day Of The Jackal, which he wrote when he was out of work. "[I was] skint, in debt, no flat, no car, no nothing and I just thought, 'How do I get myself out of this hole?' And I came up with probably the zaniest solution - write a novel," he said. It is a gripping tale, set in 1963, about an Englishman hired to assassinate the French president at the time, Charles de Gaulle.

The Day Of The Jackal was turned into a 1973 film starring Edward Fox as the Jackal, and then became a TV drama starring Eddie Redmayne last year.

Forsyth died on Monday after a brief illness, a statement said.

"We mourn the passing of one of the world's greatest thriller writers," Mr Lloyd said. "Only a few weeks ago I sat with him as we watched a new and moving documentary of his life - In My Own Words, to be released later this year on BBC One – and was reminded of an extraordinary life, well lived. After serving as one of the youngest ever RAF pilots, he turned to journalism, using his gift for languages in German, French and Russian to become a foreign correspondent in Biafra. Appalled at what he saw and using his experience during a stint as a Secret service agent, he wrote his first and perhaps most famous novel, The Day Of The Jackal, and instantly became a global bestselling author."

Forsyth followed The Day Of The Jackal with The Odessa File in 1972, which was adapted for the big screen in a film starring Jon Voight two years later.

He was made a CBE for services to literature in 1997.

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Re: My new car, as yet unbuilt, is already in love with me
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [362092/30325/5]
Posted by eightonedee at 18:58, 9th June 2025
 
I've threads on two other forums about this, and on one someone has replied "Luton has always been a van plant, not car - it started off as a Bedford truck factory. The only cars ever assembled there were Frontera 4x4s from 1992 to 2004, but it closed completely two months ago. Stellantis' only UK assembly plant is Ellesmere Port - and that stopped assembling Corsas in 2020 and Astras in 2022. It now assembles electric Berlingo/Partner/Doblo/Combo small vans and their car equivalents."

That's the current (or recently closed) one. There was another Vauxhall plant, that was Vauxhall's main plant for many years that closed in 2002. It produced all those Vauxhall Victors, Crestas and their related models that older members may remember, and later some of the Cavaliers and Vectras, which were Opel designs, that were classic sales reps and popular family cars in the 1980s and 1990s. Luton was a real motor manufacturing centre, sadly no more. 

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [362091/29650/26]
Posted by Electric train at 17:15, 9th June 2025
 
Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident between London Paddington and Reading some lines are closed.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:45 09/06

Rapidly pushed out to 1400 & now 1500
 
National Rail reporting no Elizabeth Line services between Paddington-Heathrow/Reading......Advice seems to be to go via Waterloo.

Report in a local news paper https://www.sloughexpress.co.uk/news/traffic-and-travel/201654/major-disruption-on-london-paddington-to-reading-train-line-after-casualty-on-tracks.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawKz5whleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBYRnJvRkR2RzlQTXE5SURwAR7k8vmJj-al5-L4zohMl9WOPau7kOswUS93SrOABFN-7PQzBg3_My5mDdXnDw_aem_J2_-9E6iEUR1Ri7n9xWwOw#Echobox=1749471219

Casualty on the tracks at Hanwell station


Re: Longer distance canal walks - public transport for one way section returns
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [362090/30213/50]
Posted by grahame at 16:44, 9th June 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Richard Fairhurst
 
It's the piers for the useful but closed rail line, part of the shortest route between London and the West Country, and which had at least one bridge of an uncommon design, not sure if the canal crossing's bridge was another, but the piers certainly got beefed up at some stage.

Mark

The bridge at Foxhangers was conventional - see here and open the "history" tab. The Fish Bridge on Caen Hill was the uncommon design - always known as that even after it was replaced in 1901. See here on Facebook.  None of these photos have original poster credits which I would happily add if I knew them.

Regarding the 9th photo, the herons along the Bath section of the Kennet and Avon canal are extraordinarily accepting of humans walking close by them. I assume this is one of them, probably the one that hangs around midway between Bathampton and Sydney Gardens.

This one was actually near Bradford-on-Avon; on the walk in with visiting cousins we missed the Bathampton to Bath section around the river valley and went Dundas - Midford - Tucking Mill - Combe Down - Devonshire - Bear Flat






Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362089/30333/47]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 16:37, 9th June 2025
 
?  - I thought that Stepney was another Bluebell engine right from the start, and Wikipedia seems to confirm that.



Research suggests that the Minehead engine was No. 78 (Knowle) rather than No. 55 (Stepney)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LB%26SCR_A1_class_locomotives

You're right.  My memory isn't what it was.  Thank you

Re: Longer distance canal walks - public transport for one way section returns
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [362087/30213/50]
Posted by froome at 16:00, 9th June 2025
 
Regarding the 9th photo, the herons along the Bath section of the Kennet and Avon canal are extraordinarily accepting of humans walking close by them. I assume this is one of them, probably the one that hangs around midway between Bathampton and Sydney Gardens.

Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362086/30333/47]
Posted by grahame at 14:14, 9th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
?  - I thought that Stepney was another Bluebell engine right from the start, and Wikipedia seems to confirm that.


Research suggests that the Minehead engine was No. 78 (Knowle) rather than No. 55 (Stepney)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LB%26SCR_A1_class_locomotives

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [362084/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:16, 9th June 2025
 
Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident between London Paddington and Reading some lines are closed.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:45 09/06

Rapidly pushed out to 1400 & now 1500
 
National Rail reporting no Elizabeth Line services between Paddington-Heathrow/Reading......Advice seems to be to go via Waterloo.

Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362083/30333/47]
Posted by grahame at 12:49, 9th June 2025
 
Back in the early 1970s, Butlins at Minehead were having a clear out, and "Duchess of Hamilton" was donated to the NRM (and, in November 1975, became the final BR train movement on the branch, as she was towed away to Swindon by a Class 25) and the diminutive Stroudley "Terrier" "Stepney" was donated to the WSR.  There was a fanciful idea to return the loco to service, but that didn't happen.  She was used, in 1979, as a smoking prop for a BBC2 telly drama though, thanks to a smoke bomb from BBC special effects department, and a shove from another loco

So there is a precedent for a Terrier on the Minehead Branch

?  - I thought that Stepney was another Bluebell engine right from the start, and Wikipedia seems to confirm that.

But ... I might see the earlier trip as another guest engine appearance and not anything like an "in regular traffic" type use.  It leads towards the question "at what point does a guest cease to be a guest and become a regular part of he family" ... which we could also ask about the S&D 2-8-0s to Minehead.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [362082/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:33, 9th June 2025
 
Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident between London Paddington and Reading some lines are closed.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:45 09/06

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362081/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 12:12, 9th June 2025
 
Monday June 9

And after a few good days:

09:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:22 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident.
Last Updated:09/06/2025 11:24

10:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 13:01 is being delayed at Southall.
This is due to trespassers on the railway.
Last Updated:09/06/2025 11:07

11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:44 will be started from Reading.
This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident.
Last Updated:09/06/2025 11:39

RTT has the 11:52 as starting from Shrub Hill.

Later (17:00) : The 11:52 was indeed started from Reading (+27).  It was held at Wolvercote (+37) and Evesham (+59). It arrived Shrub Hill +59 and was cancelled therafter.

15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident earlier today.
Last Updated:09/06/2025 13:34

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362080/30307/55]
Posted by Electric train at 11:51, 9th June 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
We may not have any wires but, just next to Wokingham station, we do still have a few poles. They had been hiding in the dense woodland that had been allowed to invade the slopes by the railway. As you can see, a lot of trees of similar girth were cut down and I was impressed that the chainsaw brigade could spot which ones were poles and leave them - even when camouflaged by ivy leaves.

Was there ever a siding or head shit there, these types of poles on the SR with only 2 insulators often had lighting on them, or it could have been an electricity supply for the local electricity company / board 

Exploiting the zoom effect in that photo, I can see more than by eye. For a start, the nearer pole is actually reinforced concrete, so might have won a game of scissors-paper-stone with a chainsaw. The two behind it do look round and wooden, though hard to see in detail. And why one has a ladder fixed to it, apparently wrapped in vegetation, who knows?

And while there's only the two running lines here (between the skew bridge in the picture and the footbridge the picture was taken from) in any of the old maps I've looked at, some time between the 1930s and 1960s the entry line for the goods yard at the station was extended into this section. There had always been an unused space for it under the footbridge, oddly.

The ladder would indicate lighting use

Poles for floodlighting usually had only two wires, possibly more in very extensive installations. If arc lamps were used there was usually a winch to lower the whole lighting unit to near ground level for attention, as this was needed frequently. For filament lamps, or later mercury lamps, a ladder was often provided for lamp replacement.

A few installations used series lighting, whereby special lamps of low voltage were used in series on a high voltage supply. Never popular in the UK, more of a USA thing.

Typical UK railway siding / walkway light would have been enamelled metal lampshade.

I am so happy I no longer have to repair / maintain such lighting any longer 

Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362079/30333/47]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 11:51, 9th June 2025
 
I see pictures of "Fenchurch" - a locomotive I associate with the Bluebell - hauling trains on the West Somerset Railway at present and she looks so out of place (and small). 

Back in the early 1970s, Butlins at Minehead were having a clear out, and "Duchess of Hamilton" was donated to the NRM (and, in November 1975, became the final BR train movement on the branch, as she was towed away to Swindon by a Class 25) and the diminutive Stroudley "Terrier" "Stepney" was donated to the WSR.  There was a fanciful idea to return the loco to service, but that didn't happen.  She was used, in 1979, as a smoking prop for a BBC2 telly drama though, thanks to a smoke bomb from BBC special effects department, and a shove from another loco

So there is a precedent for a Terrier on the Minehead Branch

Paddington to Reading line shut, 9 June 2025
In "London to Reading" [362078/30334/7]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 11:45, 9th June 2025
 
Not good

Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading
Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident between London Paddington and Reading all lines are closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:45 09/06.
Customer Advice
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An incident requiring the attention of the emergency services has occurred which will prevent train movements occurring between London Paddington and Reading.

As an alternative GWR ticket holders may use South Western Railway train services between London Waterloo and Reading in either direction. In addition, GWR ticket holders may also use South Western Railway services between London Waterloo and Windosr & Eton Riverside which will assist customers travelling to / from the Slough area who will need to use GWR sevices Slough to Windsor & Eton Central to assist those travelling to / from the Slough area.

GWR ticket holders may also use London Underground services across London between Waterloo and Paddington.
Last Updated:09/06/2025 11:38

Re: Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362077/30333/47]
Posted by Phantom at 11:23, 9th June 2025
 
A plus point has to be that people get to see an engine that they wouldn't normally see

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362075/30307/55]
Posted by broadgage at 11:06, 9th June 2025
 
Poles for floodlighting usually had only two wires, possibly more in very extensive installations. If arc lamps were used there was usually a winch to lower the whole lighting unit to near ground level for attention, as this was needed frequently. For filament lamps, or later mercury lamps, a ladder was often provided for lamp replacement.

A few installations used series lighting, whereby special lamps of low voltage were used in series on a high voltage supply. Never popular in the UK, more of a USA thing.

Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362074/30333/47]
Posted by grahame at 11:05, 9th June 2025
 
I see pictures of "Fenchurch" - a locomotive I associate with the Bluebell - hauling trains on the West Somerset Railway at present and she looks so out of place (and small).  And I see Romney Hythe and Dymchurch locos on the Bure Valley and on the Ravenglass and Eskdale.

Guest locomotives help, I suppose, bring back for another ride (and another wallet extraction) people who have become too familiar with the day to day options but ... are they right?   Am I too much of a purist to be put off by Fenchurch's escapades (to me, would be OK on Isle of Wight ) or is in fine and dandy?

Re: Telegraph wires
In "Railway History and related topics" [362073/30307/55]
Posted by stuving at 11:01, 9th June 2025
 
We may not have any wires but, just next to Wokingham station, we do still have a few poles. They had been hiding in the dense woodland that had been allowed to invade the slopes by the railway. As you can see, a lot of trees of similar girth were cut down and I was impressed that the chainsaw brigade could spot which ones were poles and leave them - even when camouflaged by ivy leaves.

Was there ever a siding or head shit there, these types of poles on the SR with only 2 insulators often had lighting on them, or it could have been an electricity supply for the local electricity company / board 

Exploiting the zoom effect in that photo, I can see more than by eye. For a start, the nearer pole is actually reinforced concrete, so might have won a game of scissors-paper-stone with a chainsaw. The two behind it do look round and wooden, though hard to see in detail. And why one has a ladder fixed to it, apparently wrapped in vegetation, who knows?

And while there's only the two running lines here (between the skew bridge in the picture and the footbridge the picture was taken from) in any of the old maps I've looked at, some time between the 1930s and 1960s the entry line for the goods yard at the station was extended into this section. There had always been an unused space for it under the footbridge, oddly.

Re: Announcement - Billions of investment on tram, train and bus projects.
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [362072/30318/40]
Posted by anthony215 at 11:00, 9th June 2025
 
I do think we will see filton bank being wired at least as far as. Temple meads and parson street.

siemens are pushing their battery trains and offering good financedeals.to pay for infrastructure investment for them so I'd say watch this space although TFW are starting a procurement process now.for new rolling stock jn addition to what they have now and they want to run to Bristol TM

Re: Paddle Steamer Waverley - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362071/19566/47]
Posted by grahame at 10:57, 9th June 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
I would LOVE to be taking a trip this week ... but so much else going on, and that would be greedy. Also impractical.  Many trips sold out, Clevedon and Portishead both only reachable by slow coach (or slow bus) and the most practical excursion looked like one from Penarth until noted that the Severn Tunnel is closed and getting home at the end of the trip was impossible.  Ah well - September on the South Coast

P.S. Want a quick journey across the Severn without a car the week?  Best way - P.S. Waverley

Re: My new car, as yet unbuilt, is already in love with me
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [362070/30325/5]
Posted by Clan Line at 10:50, 9th June 2025
Already liked by Marlburian
 
I've an idea that the standard colour is black, and I'm also paying  £581 extra for red.

When I bought my current car the only "free" colour was red - other colours were "available", inc black, at £500 + extra. What was it that Henry Ford said about his cars ?

Britain's Five Best Slow Train Journeys
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [362069/30332/49]
Posted by grahame at 10:32, 9th June 2025
 
From the BBC ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/travel/article/20250529-britains-five-best-slow-train-journeys

The bicentennial of this momentous event was the impetus for author, traveller and train enthusiast Tom Chesshyre's most recent book, Slow Trains Around Britain. For more than 20 years, Chesshyre has been riding the rails across the UK and around the world, totalling more than 40,000 miles in all.

Chesshyre recently sat down with the BBC to talk about his new book, what still makes rail travel so alluring and his favourite "slow-train" rides (regional train trips) in Britain.

 
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