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Re: Finland and Estonia ponder undersea railway tunnel
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [364954/16620/28]
Posted by stuving at 23:41, 30th August 2025
 
it says in that article that "they" (the promoters) "bought the London and South Western Railway for £85,000, with the intention of turning the Lymington to Freshwater railway line from a branch line to a main line". Of course that didn't happen. At the end of 1901 the Freshwater, Yarmouth and Newport (Isle of Wight) Railway Company was bought to form part of the tunnel scheme.  The reports said it was promoters, or the Solent Tunnel Company, that paid £85,000 for it (or rather for a controlling interest). However, The South Western and Isle of Wight Junction Railway Act 1901 (and those of 1903, 1909, 1914, and later) created and gave the usual powers to a company of the same name. So formally speaking, it must have been that company that was the purchaser.

For most earlier railway companies, there were frequent reports of what they were up to, including company shareholder meetings. That didn't happen here, but there were a lot of rumours of engineering difficulties delaying the start of work, or it being imminent, or just that it all progress had stopped. The sequence of acts was partly to extend the time limit to start construction work. The promoters believed, or found, that the money available from themselves and other private subscribers was too little, but their repeated attempts to get public funds either on the island or from national government failed. Frank Gerard Aman himself died in January1938, despite the other dates being quoted, and the project was abandoned not long after.

Re: Weardale Railway - Bishop Auckland to Weardale - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [364953/21811/47]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:43, 30th August 2025
 
Yes, the railway bug bites very early in life. I reckon I was bitten before my dose of chicken pox, a childhood right of passage in my day - thank God now for vaccines. Christmas was always a magical time for a child and during that season, on a day that my dad wasn’t at work, the highlight for me was him setting up on the living room floor his childhood Hornby Dublo train set for me to admire its running - but certainly not to touch!

Roll on Christmas 1966 and my first Hornby ‘O’ gauge tinplate arrived, courtesy of that wonderful white-beared chap, and I could finally get my hands on my own. The bug had left its permanent mark.

Come the following Christmas and an even more amazing item was shown to me; it was my grandfather’s ‘O’ gauge steam engine, dating from just after the First World War. It was an 0-4-0T crimson liveried locomotive, powered by liquid methylated sprits. The meths reservoir was in a metal tank just under the footplate feeding a couple of burner wicks that heated the boiler. Helpfully the tank had an overflow plug so that the correct amount of spirit could be loaded without running the boiler dry. The engine had no throttle - it was either stationary, hissing away loudly, or running at full chat. The only way to temper its speed was to load its train with suitable weights to stop it toppling over on the curves.

Now our 1960s living room was full of 1950s modern furniture - think Festival of Britain. The chairs and settee were all on spindly legs with a 6” to 7” clearance underneath - certainly enough clearance for an ‘O’ gauge tinplate track layout - and what layout is complete without a tunnel?

The great day arrived and the track was laid including the big settee tunnel. The train was assembled with suitable stones and half bricks as ballast and the locomotive prepared for its adventure - tank filled and match applied. The fun was about to start, and when the engine started spewing steam from its safety valve and cylinders it was given a gentle push - and off it set, careering around the lounge and through the tunnel with its heavy train in pursuit. This young boy was utterly delighted at the spectacle.

It was then that things started to go awry - the overflow plug of the meths tank fell out. Meths, being what it is, immediately leaked out and ran with surface tension over the whole locomotive and, of course, it immediately ignited. It was now a high speed blue ball of flame thundering around the lounge floor - like Cassy Jones’ last ride - including under the highly inflammable furniture.

Horrified, my mum screamed, “John, Stop it!!”  My dad shouted, “How?!!”

It was finally arrested short of a house fire and peace once more reigned in the land - but young me detected a certain tension in the air. Never again was grandad’s steam engine allowed to be run in the house.

In August 1968, the 15 Guinea Special was run in the northwest of England - the last UK British Railways steam train. Now 15 guineas was way beyond the pocket of my father and what is not so well known is that for several weeks before the final event, identical specials were run at far more affordable prices. My dad booked us on one of these, which I would guess to be in July 1968 when I was just finishing my first year at junior school. Liverpool to Carlisle, via Manchester, Blackburn and Hellifield - up the famous Settle and Carlisle.

The lefthand photograph was taken at Carlisle on that very trip looking reluctantly out of the driver’s window of 70013 “Oliver Cromwell” - and why, dear audience, am I looking so miserable? Well like all boys of my age, I knew far more than my dad, and his killjoy instruction not to stick my head out of the window up the Long Drag. Thus yours truly ended up with painfully sharp ash in his eyes. Nevertheless, the day sticks in my memory as ‘one of those events’.

Fifty years later and there was a re-enactment and this time I would be buying the tickets. At Manchester Victoria, shortly after the Class 7 had coupled onto its train my dad showed the crew the 1968 photo.

“Well, you’d better get another!”, they said - hence the right hand one. This time in the driver’s seat. Looking at the controls, I knew I could have taken it away - Standard Class 4T being the largest I have driven.

A couple of decades now in the heritage railway world and hopefully many years more. That bug is a lifetime infection.

Re: Finland and Estonia ponder undersea railway tunnel
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [364952/16620/28]
Posted by grahame at 22:06, 30th August 2025
 

From the Daily echo

Can we get a rail tunnel under the Solent to Isle of Wight?

With Hovertravel facing financial challenges and climate change making our weather increasingly wet and windy, it is becoming difficult to always rely on ferries and hovercraft to provide a reliable service.

If a rail tunnel was constructed under the Solent the cost would eventually be justified.

As well as passengers, the railway line could carry freight, taking it off our crumbling roads.

Our current ferries, especially on the Cowes route, are nearing the end of their efficient lifespan.

Until recently, I would not have thought of France wanting to take over the Isle of Wight ... but with the USA with designs on Greenland, perhaps it would be a good defensive idea to tunnel to the IoW? 

Came across an interesting history of this scheme at

https://www.stbarbe-museum.org.uk/whats-on/online-exhibitions/local-people-and-stories/frank-aman-the-solent-tunnel/

There have been various schemes for constructing a permanent crossing between Lymington and the Isle of Wight. Among the ideas which have been advocated was a Solent Bridge between Hurst Beach and Colwell Bay, a distance of approximately three-quarters of a mile. The proposed structure was to have been similar to the Forth Bridge, with a lifting centre portion, to allow ships to pass through. Another suggestion was to use train ferries, similar to those in use on the cross-Channel routes. However, they would have been subject to the unpredictable English weather and would have been rather clumsy for the close confines of the Solent.

The only idea which was given serious consideration, and came anywhere near to fruition, was the construction of a Solent tunnel. Its principal promoter was Frank Aman, who began  petitioning for a tunnel in the 1890’s.

Three main routes were proposed: Fawley to Cowes, Stokes Bay to Ryde and Lymington to Yarmouth, the shortest route and the most suitable, because it was flat on both sides and thinly populated.

In 1901, this decision became official as an Act of Parliament charged the London and South Western Railway and the Freshwater, Yarmouth and Newport Railway, to build a branch line between Lymington and the Isle of Wight.

Fascinating read at the URL above and for Coffee Shop members I have added a copy to our archive database so that it's available to future searches on the subject.


Re: Black Friday Interrail sale
In "Fare's Fair" [364951/28132/4]
Posted by grahame at 21:43, 30th August 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
In my bucket for next year ... Turkey by train ... and I may look to complete the FEVE narrow gauge and spend longer in Portugal.  Harz system - more than just The Brocken. Narvik, the Loften Islands and Bodo.  Inner line in Sweden.

What is in your bucket?

Harz - done much more.  Innerbanan, Narvik and Bodo done. 

Found the old thread in a search for Bodo ...  having noted this on Forbes.com

On the morning of August 30, a section of Norway’s E6 highway collapsed near Nesvatnet in Levanger after a suspected quick clay landslide. The collapse took with it both lanes of the highway, the alternative road and intercity railway line.

Trondheim is many hours north of Oslo ... but then it's another 9 hours to Bodo and even that's only part way to the Northern Cape.   I travelled southbound on this line about a month ago and had the pleasure of spending much of the journey chatting with a senior member of the TOC's staff and understanding some of the issues of providing the service.   There's a major article to be written - both fascinating to me and educational too.

Re: Server problems from around 22:30 on 29th August 2025
In "News, Help and Assistance" [364950/30650/29]
Posted by grahame at 21:27, 30th August 2025
 
I'm still getting the unable to connect securely via https message occasionally on Edge and clicking on the view unread posts button often returns no items even though it's probably been 24 hours since I last viewed it.

"Ongoing issues" rather than from last night's fiasco

... some of our pages / content include references to images held elsewhere, and many of them - especially old ones - are http rather than https.  Browsers barf at these in various ways, depending on which bowser it is and what security settings the user has made.    Although I have edited / changed to an alternative secure URL for images as I have come across them, that's an awful long process with a tiny return for each edit, and I have in mind a better solution as I do other things.

... there are occasional times where the worker has been too busy to accept connections from the receptionist - a new issue since December as we only a single server so no internal comms to go wrong before December. Our discussion on another thread about AI and crawler load rather points to the "culprit" issues and by telling or bashing certain of the crawlers we have an element of control.   Log files give me an insight as to the prooportion of theses we have;  as they "turn over" during the period the server was down, yesterday's and today's are obscured by those other things.  Come Monday morning I'll have further data.

As part of the analysis of last night, there is a possibility that I'll suggest / make a couple of server changes in the next couple of months to raise the roof and give us more headroom because of the 'bots.

... the "view unread" issue relates right back to the base SMF software we're running - always been a bit flakey and it's one of those things that effects some users irritatingly and others not at / not reproducible.   Blooming had things to debug, too, issues that report on last 24 hours.  Once I see the problem, it's gone away ... and another period to wait to see it again.     I suspect intermediate caching devices which double-dip sometimes and like my testing, the first time they get correct unseen flags.  Coming back a (milli)seconds later, there is then nothing new.  That's a theory that would explain what you see.  And our server does see double hits.

Re: Server problems from around 22:30 on 29th August 2025
In "News, Help and Assistance" [364949/30650/29]
Posted by Surrey 455 at 20:06, 30th August 2025
 
I'm still getting the unable to connect securely via https message occasionally on Edge and clicking on the view unread posts button often returns no items even though it's probably been 24 hours since I last viewed it.

Re: Crusing on the Exe - getting refreshed right through
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364948/30653/5]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:28, 30th August 2025
 


This one has folks aboard....

Re: Steam engine 34046 'Braunton' - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [364947/27919/47]
Posted by PhilWakely at 19:20, 30th August 2025
 
...  'Lord Dowding' is in too good a condition for that (she was bereft of nameplates after 1966!) ....

Lovely picture - but why do we say "She" when a locomotive has a male name.  Or is it because the locomotive was in drag at the time the picture was taken?

Google's AI says this.......
Steam locomotives are often referred to as 'she' due to a long-standing tradition where machines, like ships, are personified as female, reflecting their nurturing and protective roles. This practice is rooted in historical language usage and the emotional connections drivers develop with their locomotives.

Gendering of Steam Locomotives

Steam locomotives are often referred to as "she" due to a combination of historical, cultural, and linguistic factors.
Historical Context

    Tradition: The practice of calling ships and locomotives "she" has been a long-standing tradition in maritime and railway culture. This custom likely stems from the idea of ships and locomotives as protectors and nurturers, similar to maternal figures.

    Personification: Many engineers and drivers develop a personal connection with their locomotives, treating them as living entities. This emotional bond often leads to the use of female pronouns.

Linguistic Origins

    Language Evolution: The word for ship in Latin, "navis," is feminine. This linguistic background has influenced how various cultures refer to ships and, by extension, locomotives.

    Cultural Associations: In many cultures, machines like locomotives are seen as powerful yet requiring care and maintenance, traits often associated with femininity.

Modern Perspectives

    Debate: While many still refer to locomotives as "she," some argue against gendering inanimate objects, viewing it as outdated or unnecessary. However, the tradition persists in many railway communities.

In summary, steam locomotives are referred to as "she" due to historical traditions, emotional connections, and linguistic influences, although this practice is increasingly debated in modern contexts.

Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [364946/593/9]
Posted by ray951 at 19:11, 30th August 2025
 
It needs to  - Hendy promised that it would be, without fail, open by the end of this month....

I went and had a look at the work on the new walkway this week and I will be really surprised if it is ready by the end of the month.

Hopefully I will be proved wrong but they still haven't put in place all the pre-cast concrete sections that make up the walkway and then they would need to clear up the site and move all the barriers, signs etc. before it could be used.
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It’s been a bit of an undignified scramble, but from a good nose around this afternoon, it looks as if final preparations are underway for it to just meet the deadline.


That will be good news and happy to be proved wrong. 

Re: Weardale Railway - Bishop Auckland to Weardale - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [364945/21811/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:53, 30th August 2025
 
From the BBC:

'I've always loved trains - now I'm qualified to drive one'


Logan Smallwood has always been fascinated with trains from an early age

For as long as he can remember, Logan Smallwood has never been far from a train.

Inside his bedroom sits a huge collection of models, some tucked safely away in boxes, others sitting out proudly for all to see. But the 18-year-old's love for all things locomotive travels far further than his County Durham home - he has now become one of the youngest-known qualified train drivers in the UK, according to his instructor.

It is a step he says which brings him closer to his dream of working on mainland trains across the UK. "I've always loved trains, I have just loved anything that can move, any kind of machinery, transportation, I have always been fascinated by it," he said.

The teenager, who graduated from Newcastle College Rail Academy with a distinction in his Level 3 Extended Diploma in Engineering Technologies, recently completed his first operational solo shift on the Weardale Railway, a heritage line in County Durham.

Powering a Sentinel shunter, which has a top speed of 17mph and is typically used to manoeuvre railway vehicles in goods yards, he said the experience "feels like where I belong".


The train lover has loved all things locomotive since an early age

"Driving through the wonderful countryside down in Weardale is lovely," he said. "I really enjoy it but I don't focus on what I feel like, I'm just absolutely loving driving it, loving the scenery."

Logan began volunteering at the Weardale Railway - an 18-mile heritage line which sits in an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty and runs from a connection with the main rail network at Bishop Auckland to Eastgate in Weardale - in April last year, shortly after he finished secondary school.

"Weardale runs trains that I adore and it has got little steam locomotives for the bigger diesels, which is one of the attractions for me, I love working there," he added.


Logan says he absolutely loves the feeling of controlling the train

"I've always said when I grow up, I want to be a train driver, but there's a lot of different safety aspects in becoming a train driver. But Weardale Railway put me through all my assessments and I apparently I picked everything up, no bother."

In the UK, the minimum age to drive a train has been lowered from 20 to 18, which Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander announced in May as a way to tackle driver shortages.

Logan, from Lanchester, has ambitions to become a mainland train driver and says his family are "proud" of his achievements so far. "My mum is really proud of me, when she find out I got my shunter certificate she was almost in tears and my family say I am getting closer to my dream," he added.

As part of his volunteering role at Weardale, Logan also takes people on to the shunter to demonstrate how it works.


Logan pictured driving a train for the first time as a child

Wayne Dixon, technical rail advisor at Weardale Railway and Logan's instructor, said he was confident the teenager is one of the youngest train drivers in the UK. "Logan is an exceptional young man who clearly has a future in rail, he was literally banging on my door when the opportunity came along for him to train as a sentinel driver," he said. "As well as being able to drive the locomotive, he is also expected to talk to customers. I'm sure this is just the start of a long career for Logan and I'm pleased I've been able to help him on his way."


Logan's childhood hobby is helping him into the world of work

In his spare time, Logan takes to the tracks in a different style, as a member of the Blackhill model club in Consett. He is one of three members who designs full layouts of model railways, with about 60 different model Hornby trains, and about 100 wooden railway trains that form part of his collection.

"I could sit there and watch them for hours," he said. "Trains are still an older generation hobby but there's a few younger people starting to get into it. My great-grandad worked in the mines and he was always fascinated by trains. He gave me a coal model of a Silver Link and I think that might have been what set me off."


Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [364944/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 18:10, 30th August 2025
 
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:18

17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:18 has been delayed at Swindon and is now 13 minutes late.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.

Re: Where am I going (27 August)
In "The Lighter Side" [364943/30637/30]
Posted by grahame at 18:01, 30th August 2025
 
Johnneyw is closer, but not close enough..

I suspect you were headed, then, to Cuxhaven

[snip]


May have misread that - Schleswig, Rendesburg (where the line north from Hamburg rises over the Kiel Canal) or Neumunster (where some of the suburban trains out from Hamburg to Kiel and Flensburg split, and there is a railway museum

Re: Crusing on the Exe - getting refreshed right through
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364942/30653/5]
Posted by grahame at 17:52, 30th August 2025
 
That's more than 100 very invisible people! 

"Quick everyone - duck ... there's another boat going by". 

Re: Where am I going (27 August)
In "The Lighter Side" [364941/30637/30]
Posted by grahame at 17:50, 30th August 2025
 
Johnneyw is closer, but not close enough..

I suspect you were headed, then, to Cuxhaven

Germany as a whole has a large and inherently variable wind power source, the fluctuations of which already dictate generation patterns across Europe, and Cuxhaven is in the middle of prime wind territory - onshore, offshore, and on Heligoland. So the idea of banking electricity when it's surplus to usability in the form of hydrogen might even work there, if it can anywhere. Provided someone stumps up for all those electrolysers, of course.

But basically it's just another step in a long development and proving process for hydrogen trains, and an encouraging one on the whole.

and if so, and updated report on how they're doing in covering movement of air (wind) into movement of people (on a train) via splitting and reforming water (electrolysis and hydrogen power) would be great.

Re: Where am I going (27 August)
In "The Lighter Side" [364940/30637/30]
Posted by eightonedee at 17:00, 30th August 2025
 
Johnneyw is closer, but not close enough..

Re: Crusing on the Exe - getting refreshed right through
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364939/30653/5]
Posted by froome at 16:23, 30th August 2025
 
That's more than 100 very invisible people! 

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [364938/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 15:30, 30th August 2025
 
Saturday August 30

Signalling problems at Didcot, and plastic sheeting in the overhead wires at Southall.

1W25 12:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate St (15:11) : delayed at Didcot (+18), arrived Shrub Hill +19 and cancelled thereafter.

14:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:14 will be terminated at Worcester Foregate Street.
It has been delayed between London Paddington and Reading and is now 38 minutes late.
This is due to an object being caught on the overhead electric wires earlier today.
Last Updated:30/08/2025 17:09

15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:29 is being delayed at London Paddington.
This is due to an object being caught on the overhead electric wires.
Last Updated:30/08/2025 16:55
Departed +24.

1P25 13:05 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington (15:22) : held Charlbury (+11), arrived +40.

Re: Where am I going (27 August)
In "The Lighter Side" [364937/30637/30]
Posted by grahame at 15:02, 30th August 2025
 

I'm thinking of Flensburg now.

As part of a longer trip that makes sense, as it's where the local trains from Germany and Denmark both end their runs.  There are a couple of major places along the way which would make for a good stop on a tour too.  There is another place - Tonder - where German and Danish local trains meet, but from Hamburg there would be an extra change at Niebull. 

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [364936/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:20, 30th August 2025
 
......a very poor week for the Thames Valley.....

Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to an object being caught on the overhead electric wires between London Paddington and Reading some lines are blocked.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed by up to 30 minutes or revised.
Disruption is expected until 17:00 30/08.

Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [364935/593/9]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 13:55, 30th August 2025
 
It needs to  - Hendy promised that it would be, without fail, open by the end of this month....

I went and had a look at the work on the new walkway this week and I will be really surprised if it is ready by the end of the month.

Hopefully I will be proved wrong but they still haven't put in place all the pre-cast concrete sections that make up the walkway and then they would need to clear up the site and move all the barriers, signs etc. before it could be used.

It’s been a bit of an undignified scramble, but from a good nose around this afternoon, it looks as if final preparations are underway for it to just meet the deadline.

Re: Steam engine 34046 'Braunton' - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [364934/27919/47]
Posted by bobm at 13:14, 30th August 2025
Already liked by rogerw, GBM
 
We have a bus in Swindon named Western Pathfinder.



If she is a she, does that concern a member here with a similar name?   

Re: Where am I going (27 August)
In "The Lighter Side" [364933/30637/30]
Posted by johnneyw at 13:08, 30th August 2025
 
Almost, but no cigar Grahame. It's the last one that's wrong, not on the list of alternatives you have suggested.

If you (or anyone else) want to finish the puzzle, it's a destination that is within the range of distances from Hamburg suggested by Grahame......



Bremen perchance?


Unlikely as that would be doubling back from Hamburg. 

Yes, I see what you mean now.  I misinterpreted some of the info/replies. 
I'm thinking of Flensburg now.

Re: Where am I going (27 August)
In "The Lighter Side" [364932/30637/30]
Posted by grahame at 12:02, 30th August 2025
Already liked by eightonedee
 
Almost, but no cigar Grahame. It's the last one that's wrong, not on the list of alternatives you have suggested.

If you (or anyone else) want to finish the puzzle, it's a destination that is within the range of distances from Hamburg suggested by Grahame......



Bremen perchance?


Unlikely as that would be doubling back from Hamburg. 

Re: "Passenger fined €85 after cat ‘miaows too loudly’ on train" - The Independent
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [364931/30648/52]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 11:44, 30th August 2025
Already liked by Timmer
 
Why is it some people think we all want to hear their phone conversations, the music they are playing or tv programs/films?

It’s definitely something that’s got much worse over the past couple of years.

And yes, woe betide anyone who challenges them to put headphones/ear buds in.

Particularly bad on the Elizabeth Line. I've become quite an afficionado of "Gangsta rap" as a result! 

Re: Where am I going (27 August)
In "The Lighter Side" [364930/30637/30]
Posted by johnneyw at 11:27, 30th August 2025
 
Almost, but no cigar Grahame. It's the last one that's wrong, not on the list of alternatives you have suggested.

If you (or anyone else) want to finish the puzzle, it's a destination that is within the range of distances from Hamburg suggested by Grahame......



Bremen perchance?

Re: Steam engine 34046 'Braunton' - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [364929/27919/47]
Posted by GBM at 11:18, 30th August 2025
Already liked by rogerw
 


Lovely picture - but why do we say "She" when a locomotive has a male name.  Or is it because the locomotive was in drag at the time the picture was taken?

I've always understood that all rail (and road) engines and ships are 'she', regardless of their name

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [364928/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:53, 30th August 2025
 
Delays to services at Reading

Due to a fault with the signalling system at Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines
.
Train services running to and from this station may be delayed. Disruption is expected until 11:15 30/08.

Re: Steam engine 34046 'Braunton' - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [364927/27919/47]
Posted by grahame at 10:32, 30th August 2025
Already liked by PhilWakely
 
...  'Lord Dowding' is in too good a condition for that (she was bereft of nameplates after 1966!) ....

Lovely picture - but why do we say "She" when a locomotive has a male name.  Or is it because the locomotive was in drag at the time the picture was taken?

Re: Crusing on the Exe - getting refreshed right through
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364926/30653/5]
Posted by Timmer at 10:19, 30th August 2025
 
Whatever floats your boat.

Crusing on the Exe - getting refreshed right through
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364925/30653/5]
Posted by grahame at 09:42, 30th August 2025
 
From The Metro

Each year, more than 100 people take a three-hour cruise down the River Exe estuary in Devon… naked.

The Nude Cruise has been run for its 13th year in a row

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